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Haley Walkout, Quiet Deception, & Evolving Thoughts on Israel

Let me preface this by saying I had no idea that I would find this one, small opening to an article so interesting, and also that you will have to forgive me for a rambling delivery. But I really did find this to be a particularly interesting topic because it delves into a lot of small areas that interest me. The Israel/Palestine topic is so rich by itself, and is so utterly complex it is hard to ever adequately deal with it, and when we add in the media’s attempts to gaslight us into a strange position it gets to be even more fun.

I really only stumbled upon this by accident. In one of the Chess forums that I frequent, a leftist was throwing a fit over this story and, voila, here we are.

Nikki Haley, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, forcefully defended Israel in the violence at Gaza, potentially widening a rift between the U.S. and allies.

The U.N.’s Middle East envoy said there was no justifying the killings of more than 50 Palestinians by Israeli fire at the Gaza border, and several Security Council members called for an independent investigation, but the council had no unified message Tuesday as the U.S. said Israel had acted with “restraint.” Haley placed all blame for the conflict with Hamas, after more than 50 Palestinians were killed by Israeli fire at the Gaza border, following the U.S. Embassy move to Jerusalem that was celebrated Monday. Haley laid blame for Monday’s violence on the Hamas extremists who rule Gaza and insisted it had nothing to do with the opening the embassy, a move that infuriated Palestinians.

CBS

It is kind of like the media wants to make it a foregone conclusion that it is the US & Israel alone on these issues, and that all of our other “allies” are thinking of turning their backs on us. But I do not know how accurate of a portrayal this is. I think the US has always vocally supported the Israel party line, more or less, while places like Europe openly oppose it in their words but do nothing with their actions, which is this happy medium that they have entertained for a very long time. In reality, I think nothing dramatic is happening here.

I think that the real interests of the media are quite clear on issues like this:

By emphasizing that this could cause conflict with our allies,  the more that it seems like a disturbance, and the more that it seems like people are meaningfully at odds with each other, the more that they can vilify the Trump administration.

This also provides us with a potentially funny situation where we have the Left and the “Resistance” to Pres. Trump, who are known for all manner of disruption tactics in their efforts to resist the ebil Nazis, arguing that it is beyond the pale to walk out of a discussion like this. Of course, you can almost hear them sputtering but, but, but it’s different because this is the United Nations.

Like shoes don’t get occasionally pounded on tables and what not. Like the people who paraded through the streets with hats meant to mimic female anatomy & have actively campaigned for shifting all standards of decency away from conservative values are truly disheartened by anything less than Victorian quietism when there is a disagreement.

What is also interesting about this sort of incident is that it highlights that there is a lot of change happening in the West re: Israel.

We have seen, more and more, the loyalties to Israel begin to dissipate in favor of the fresh & new “post-colonial” narratives that you see popping up here and there. These ideas gaining popularity pose a great problem for the Left, in my opinion, because they only serve to hammer home the impracticality of Leftist thought. Are we really prepared to burn our bridges with one of the only functional states in the Middle East just to further some line about democracy, autonomy, self-determination, etc., for absolutely everyone, and to talk about “Zionist oppression?”

What is also really fascinating about all of the talk about Israel is that, no matter how you cut the cake, no matter who you side with, it can come back to pro-Nationalist narratives. Israel sticks out like a sore thumb to the globalists: two different peoples that are finding it rather difficult to live one another and both want to have full autonomy. No matter who you side with, it is not too difficult to talk about the validity of each people having a right to self-determination, which, in the era of globalization, sounds increasingly like a radical position. Radical only because the post-WWII narrative about muh rights above every other consideration now makes the basis of some “collective” having rights distasteful to the Libertarian right and unpalatable to the Left for a different collection of reasons.

It has really been a long time since I have sat and thought about Israel… I have grown, over the years, to be increasingly “centrist” and disinclined towards radical positions on the topic. This has marked a stark shift from my youth when I was a kneejerk supporter of everything Israel and had little sympathies on the sides. I simply want to emphasize that both the American right & left tend to make major mistakes on this topic — there is no reason for us to be unquestioningly loyal to Israel, and there is no reason for us to support settlements that are unfair to Palestinians because it theoretically advances some obscure geopolitical cause that we have.

After all, hasn’t the last decade and some change convinced us of the disaster of our interventions in the Middle East? Haven’t we simply come to some point where we can at last put down the mantle of “democratization” there? Why should we work on furthering some super intense posturing of the state of Israel against all others in the Middle East, when, in the long-term, the real goal should be stability, and there is no stability that can come from promoting fundamental imbalances?

The right has to drastically moderate its stance on Israel because no matter how irrational anti-Israel advocates can be we have to be rational actors. Two irrational people flinging dung at each other do not make a right.

Palestinians have inalienable human rights, just like Israelis, and Palestinians have a right to national autonomy and a future. We should do everything that we can to treat them with dignity and come to agreements that see them prosper. As Israel is already a well established state with a high standard of living, more has to be done to see to the needs of Palestinians, and any process which does not prioritize justice for these people will simply lead to more severe and prolonged conflict.

There is also something slightly sick with the obsession that the American conservatives can get with Israel — I’d really like to sit down and discuss this with my people in real life. There gets to be an unhealthy obsession and a borderline psychosis when it comes to defending the state of Israel, as if it can do no wrong and as if the whole of the world is in conspiracy against them. I can only explain it by thinking that the trauma of the Holocaust has pushed people toward heightened sensitivity, and also that the events of the various conflicts prior to my birth were also instrumental in bolstering it a bit higher. I do not think that they are entirely irrational in their position but they have certainly done nothing to moderate their beliefs on the topic over the years.

I honestly think that my position is hopelessly boring, moderate, and uncreative. But I am sure people will find fault in it — this is Israel/Palestine, after all, a topic just as sensitive as abortion and, even though an actual middle ground exists, people like to pretend that there can be no such middle ground and that to seek it out is folly in itself.