The below post is originally from a politicsforum.org post that I made earlier today, and it contained some interesting information that I had to track down concerning the nature of pre-Zoroastrian Iranian religion. Overall, I think it was one of the more interesting things I’ve really thought about and while I am not sure of the veracity of all of it, I open it up to discussion.
If anything seems funny in the wording, remember it was originally in reply to other people; I haven’t bothered to take away this quality from it and present it in its original format to you.
Hinduism & Buddhism are both Salvific faiths just as Islam & Christianity are. Buddhism has all manner of texts (especially Mahayana Buddhism) that emphasize the role of the teacher as ultimate. To be a Dharma teacher is quite an important and great thing in Buddhism. Many sutras focus on the idea of spreading the teachings of the Buddha as an important and necessary path for the Buddhist monk, and there are examples of sutras condemning monks who spent their entire lives looking inward as opposed to spreading the message.
Hinduism was transmitted to Indonesia for a long period of time — perhaps with the very goal of providing a method of attaining salvation to the masses. I can’t really comment further on that… But I would guess the lack of salvific outreach to others has to do with the fact that India was already a massive, divided place and expanding beyond Hindustan isn’t exactly an easy task. Not to mention, it is not as if the Hindustanis had the infrastructure or means to really make an easy going of a sustained mission abroad… though apparently to some degree this did happen in Indonesia.
Perhaps it is also worth noting, as FRS did, that Hinduism is a great patchwork of many different beliefs there; consider the Zoroastrians of the Iranic world. Before Zoroastrianism the Iranic religion is incredibly similar to Hinduism, and while tere are some different gods there are basically such striking similarities, that the Rg Veda is considered to provide us information with pre-Zoroastrian Vedic-Aryan deva worship. You can read more here.
So, basically, until Islam took out Zoroastrianism, we know that the most accessible lands surrounding India were essentially Buddhist (Afghanistan, parts of northeast Iran), or they were Zoroastrian (the rest of Iran, much of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, etc.). Zoroastrian can be regarded on some level as a reformed, monotheized version of the regionalized Hindu-esque religion that had existed there…
… And gods know (appreciate the subtlety) that there was probably significant variation in the daily language, names and worship of the gods in Bihar and the gods in Tamil Nadu, and the gods in East Bengal and the gods in Punjab.
We might be running into a situation where Hinduism cannot spread to these lands beyond the Hindu Kush because it was more or less already there. Albeit, in a different and reformed version (though who is to say that there was not enclaves and villages still practicing a faith more similar to that of the pre-Zoroastrianism?).
In some sense, could we not argue that Hinduism had nowhere to expand from India, because it already had the Persian & Afghan empires?
(And we all know that it is Islam that supplants Zoroastrianism).
How does this dial into it?
Perhaps something like:
– Hinduism was salvific and spreading, as it did to Indonesia.
– Hinduism had no need to ‘spread’ to Persia and Iranic lands because it was more or less already there. It was then just reformed drastically right around the same time that Buddhism was formed.
– Buddhism & Jainism cause rifts within Hindustan and spread far and wide; the success of Buddhism in spreading abroad to some degree functions as a transmission as it is of Hindu culture, and perhaps even hints at the impotence of Hinduism to be of importance within Indian society. It is suggested by Gombrich in his book What The Buddha Thought that Buddhism was a religion primarily of the merchant / trader class, as it stands, and thus makes sense that while the Hinduism of the Brahmins stays put, the Buddhism of the Vaishyas spreads further & furhter.
– As time passes the Zoroastrians & Buddhists are defeated by the Muslims. Hinduism now has no options to spread and rather will be fully prepared to reel back in the face of Islam.
– Hinduism is then eventually enclosed by Islam to the West, and then there’s the far more Buddhist Bengali lands that eventually become Islamic; the Muslims then even spread their messages to Malaysia & Indonesia via Indian trade routes and usurp the old lands where Hinduism spread…
So after a 1,000 years they grow accustomed to constant inward looking.
It’s easy to become extremely introverted when surrounded by enemies… Ask the Koreans, ask the Shi’ites, ask the Druze, etc.
I recently took some time to listen to an extensive podcast on medieval guilds which featured the economic historian Gary Richards and it was utterly illuminating concerning the functions & roles of guilds in medieval Europe. The full podcast, of course, can be listened to via player.fm.
Of course, there are countless sociological and historical reasons as to why our ancestors functioned the way that they did… You know, in a more civilized and socially conscious fashion than anyone does today. It is also clear that the idea of getting anyone to behave with the manner & neighborliness of a medieval person is a long shot, but let us pine for the old days together for a moment.
First off, throw the image that you have of guilds out of your head; it isn’t solely an organization of pre-modern businessmen trying to fix prices and pull one over on the consumer. The word guild has a far broader reach. Any organization at all could be called a guild.
In medieval England, nearly every village had at least one registered ‘guild.’ These can be referred to as ‘societies’ as well, and some of these village guilds were nothing more than a prayer society. During the podcast Richardson stated that he believed nearly every adult in England probably was involved in some guild or another. But, of course, many of these were more so village social organizations, and not necessarily within the scope of our interest as we talk about former business practices.
The guilds that did exist that were associations of, say, pewter makers, blacksmiths, tanners, etc. formed very naturally and lived very interconnected lives. Remember that villages would be organized in a logical fashion — tanners and butchers deal with a lot of carcasses and do all manner of processes to make leather; you’d want them congregated in one area near the outside of town. Blacksmiths were involved in extremely loud work that likewise had a lot of fire and produced a lot of smoke and waste — again, you’d want them in one neighborhood.Thus, these guilds were also on some level neighborhood associations. They encompassed the entire section of town where all of the people of a single occupation lived.
It is also important to note that in the highly religious medieval times the craftsmen were devoted to their patron saints. Believing in purgatory as well as Heaven, the guildsmen would gather and pray not just for one another and their families, but also deceased guildsmen who may be stuck in purgatory. A very strong religious zeal existed within them — and in medieval England the primary threat that came with cheating your guild and being estranged from it was one of no longer receiving the prayers and blessings of the group you are with.
But guilds certainly weren’t just prayer warriors… Guilds offered mutual insurance to one another. If a guild member were to have died early, it is fully known that basic sustenance would be provided for his family and even dowries would commonly be furnished by his fellow guildsmen. There was a distinct sense of great social responsibility within the guild…
Guilds would compete to see who provided the best services to their communities and gave the most mutual assurance. They wished to be prestigious and have a measurable positive impact on the community. it was well documented that on the day of their patron Saints, they would have lively festivals and parades. This would include paying for lavish public performances of plays often depicting the life and good deeds of their Saints. The guildsmen would wear special liveries or badges indicating their membership in the guild — for it was a sign of distinct pride to have such an association with organizations that provided for the community.
Of course, guilds were dedicated to their economic work as well. Their trades were closely held secrets, but what was also important was providing quality products. It was common to put a symbol, emblem or ‘signature’ of sorts upon their products because the markings would have reputations attached to them. Thus, one of the other functions of a guild was to look into the work of their registered craftsmen and insure that nobody was doing things to make their products worst (like putting too much lead into their pewter, for instance).
Of course, this was a very different epoch in human history but as a fan of history I always hope to learn something from it. In this case what is clearly worthy of our attention was how, while the time was not as technologically advanced nor had the comforts of modern times, it does appear that they did their best to take care of one another, and a great point of pride was their ability to Give.
All of these elements stand out in stark contrast to the nature of how our business is done, and it is certainly harder to think of us as being the perpetual superior to these medieval peoples.
It is pretty normal and natural that any society can reserve the right to apprehend those who are violating their laws or borders, just as one would expect the Police to use force if someone was beginning to resist their arrest, even if such a crime would not normally seemingly merit violent of action.
It is simply an issue of not allowing anyone to break the law without consequence.
But not the case to the PC EU:
EU Interior Commissioner Cecilia Malmström has warned Spain that it cannot use force to prevent immigrants from crossing the border into its North African enclaves of Ceuta and Melilla. The commissioner said that she would not hesitate to take action if she saw clear signs of European laws being broken, reports the Público online new site.
Malmström’s comments on Monday came days after a controversy flared up over a video in which a sub-Saharan migrant is shown being beaten by Civil Guard officers after he climbed the fence separating Morocco from Melilla.
“Border vigilance measures should be proportional and force can only be used when it is necessary and required in order for agents to continue to carry out their duties, to protect their own safety and their lives. Force must not be used as a deterrent against the unauthorised crossing of the border,” the Swedish commissioner said in answer to a question asked in the European Parliament by a Basque Country MEP representing the Bildu party, Josu Juaristi.
Basically, a hilarious standard is being created because it gives the Eurocommunists an upset stomach to think that force might be used in the process of arresting a flagrant violator of the standing laws.
Now, perhaps such a statement from a fringe party during a season where Europe faced no immigration issues would be somehow respectable, because, after all, there is no pressing need to curb illegal entry, but even still…
We are trapped in a world of absurdity because politicians increasingly ratchet up their sense of humanity until ‘force’ itself, when in the upholding of the law, is no longer ‘legal.’
But many of these European states have brought this upon themselves when they have willfully bent their necks to a central authority that is hellbent on driving Europe into the ground.
This is one of the more interesting passages — now, just read it, and I will provide some contextualization towards the end:
“Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience. 6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.”
The funny thing is is that this was written to people living in an officially Pagan Empire that was decadent, rife with sex & indulgence, filled with slavery & all manner of other injustices, and it was written by a man who, while citizen of the Empire, was also a Hellenic Jew who was a former Jewish zealot that persecuted liberal Jews & Christians for not being Pharisees. We are literally talking about the most objective, abstract and divorced from bias opinion possible coming from the mouth of Paul on this one.
His integrity and position are incredible! Mindblowing, even. It is hard to fully grasp what is going on here simply because the fellow had no reason, no motive, to pledge any modicum of loyalty to Caesar or any other authority; indeed, Christ Himself was like the fabled Socrates drinking the hemlock at the command of the authorities.
There’s something to be said of this.
It shows some aspect of fatalism within early Christendom, but it also clearly outlines a devout sense of duty to the traditionalist perspectives of authority like that of Guenon or Evola.
In some sense it illustrates the commitment that these radical Christians had to the almost apolitical nature of Christendom. Truly, a radical passage, and one that also speaks of the Ruler – Subject relationship as it was in that culture.
A lot of things can be discussed via this passage and while I could go on, I still haven’t fully formulated my thoughts, and rather, I invite my readers on Facebook/Twitter and elsewhere to discuss or enjoy the depth and context of this passage.
I recently was perusing a forum and saw an interesting paper brought up by the famous website, 23&Me, which specializes in genetic testing. While the famous claim is often made by Americans that they possess some Native American ancestry, it appears that it might not be true.
According to this paper, it is believed that native American ancestry among European-Americans occurs the most in North Dakota & Louisiana, and here it measures to roughly 4% of the population possessing at least 2% Native American DNA; when the threshold is lessened to 1%, it reaches 8% in Louisiana, but there is no otherwise significant rise… The same paper stated that roughly 1.4% of European-Americans carry African genetic ancestry, and that it is naturally most high in places like South Carolina and, again Louisiana. That number jumps dramatically when the threshold is lowered to 1%, and in some states it reaches nearly 10% of the population, But, on average, it is somewhere between 1 & 3% of all European Americans that carry African American ancestry.
Nearly all of this information comes from Page 11 of The Report.
I did not go into the analysis of Latino & African-American populations because it was largely what we expected: Latinos being a large mix, though perhaps more white than we think in specific populations, but by and large, the average Latino in the US being 65% European. Likewise, the average African American is 24% European. The Latino percentage of European seems somewhat surprising, but I anticipated the number for African Americans.
Some of the conclusions we can make:
– Most of the people who claim to be part Native American are probably not.
– Many of the people who claim to be part Native American, especially in the South, are perpetuating a family myth that was started to probably hide their African slave ancestry.
– Ironically though not surprisingly, it is the traditionally more racist states that have white people who are more likely to possess African-American ancestry.
I would love to see more information on these sorts of things in the future.
I am always skeptical when someone becomes celebrated by mainstream media or the news as a potential leader of the people, some icon of rebellion. Chances are, the have been selected, celebrated and endorsed precisely because some Elites have viewed their ideas as appealing to them. And what we know about Elites: they never have any intention to meaningfully give up their power or influence, and would prefer to extend it more than anything else.
Someone has decided that Russell Brand, perhaps, is the sort of useful idiot that can go out and shill for vague values and “revolution,” and is perhaps a good means to making a buck… Or, thre’s the potential that he could be some true rebel that has somehow landed a gig.
Now when someone tells me that the Occupy Wall Street movement was some eye opening experience for them, and I had not heard about their political views before hand… I immediately become skeptical.
I’ve been having political thoughts (albeit bad ones) since a kid, and I quickly became skeptical and repelled by the mainstream issues that were even chosen and view them all as some sort of diversion.
I heard some intereting analysis from a fellow on PoFo not too long ago (by the name of Grassroots1), who noted that e felt that the Tea Party & OWS would have been good allies. For, in the end, both had a similar agenda, and both wanted meaningful change to a culture of public bailouts of private corporations. In that there was some good analysis and potential for OWS…
But what we quickly saw occur was OWS become an incredibly delineated, solitary “rebellion” of just one story within the greater discontent, and we also saw that the organization became embedded and dominated by typical radicals that would never be able to extend their hands to a broader swathe of society.
I am inclined to believe that Russell Brand is just a silly figure that, if we aren’t careful, will be expected to “speak for our generation” (GOD FORBID!!!), and to “lead us.”
I tell you: anywhere Russell Brand leads you will have to do with his personal bank account and book deal (though he might not know or admit it), and it will have to do more specifically with whatever agenda the Elites behind him have in mind.
Don’t buy his book.
Don’t follow his lead.
Don’t pay attention. Unless it is to laugh… Perhaps he is a good comedian, after all, but I see no reason why his gestures here shouldn’t be treated as another comedic gesture.
Not to mention I do not even know of how to make of the douchey-ness that seeps through towards the end of the interview.
Femen, the radical feminist organization which has garnered fame for utter insanity, has proven itself useful in pointing out the ridiculous nature of the occupied & degenerate Western liberal justice system which, having no regard for any of its own institutions nor any concept of propriety, has essentially sided with Femen and thrown the book at others who have challenged their order.
No doubt, a simple watch through the video will reveal just how utterly nutty the Femen tactics are (as is to be expeced) but the fact that after pulling such a stunt they received 1,500 Euros each for being rouged up by guards shows precisely the nature of liberal European courts who have zero regard for the sanctity of some of their greatest heritage sites, but would hold guards to exaggerated standards while arresting such cretins.
And, of course, while the stunt pulled off on the French island is utterly unacceptable, it is a far cry off compared to Femen’s deed, and the punishment that they received was far lesser.
This is why I love Russia Today: it is one of the few reliable, famous sources that will actually go after the hypocrisy of the West, and will point out the negativity of the direction that we have been taking for a very long time.
The level of hypocrisy within Western institutions, and the level to which they pander to the far left and slap their wrists lightly while witch hunting the right wing, is an issue that should be of a concern to everyone who has ever considered that democracy should be a free & fair notion.
This isn’t even really a ‘left vs. right’ issue, but it is one where we are seeing a gross double standard within institutions that should be objective more or less.
Another fun note:
I turn 30 today.
Sexual politics has become a thing dominating modern politics for the last two decades. The irony is that modern man seems to always complain about the lack of privacy that we enjoy, yet at the same time these issues are pressured to become public affairs. There are massive attempts to manipulate public opinion and to force certain agendas down our throats and so, it is with some degree of regret, that I find myself in the world of people commenting on the highly personal.
It is, no doubt, a victory of misguided or nefarious forces to turn the highly private into the highly public, and to shift discussion towards a decidedly individual topic. But, nonetheless, we must present our opinions respectfully when it is relevant, and stand up for our positions.
Some quotations form James Kalb I caught off of a great Tweeter’s feed:
"Those who say sexual love is 'bigger than both of us' are more right than they know." http://t.co/yI409Ivhsz
— Wagner Clemente Soto (@wcsoto) October 14, 2014
The message here is one that should be rather clear… That to some degree our sexuality does have greater ramifications, and thereby it isn’t some pleasant choice that we make, but it is rather always bearing a large impact on those around us.
Perhaps it could, in some universe, be a private affair, but that is certainly not our universe, and it is certainly not even the will of those who actively engage in sexual politics who attempt to tie everything back to an issue of our individual sexualities.
And it is to them that the suggestion ought to be made that the choices which we make as people do have large impacts on everyone that is around us. Thus, we see why there has always been an attachment to conservative viewpoints on the sexuality of people — to avoid the more pervasive, negative impacts that sexuality can have upon vast numbers of people.
The notion is simple, and something that nearly all of us understand intuitively: to avoid problems and confusions over things we limit the scope of people allowed to use them. Not because we hate people, but because we understand that mistakes are regularly made and the more that people are involved in them the more confusing the situations become, and the greater risk of disaster exists.
Thus: sexuality, regardless of what we want, is ideally restricted to the confines of monogamous relationships that are public and officiously sanctioned.
Love is, as they say, ironically larger than just you or me, it is larger than just any single couple or any single set of desires or preferences, but because of those far ranging impacts, it is something that ought to be minimalized and played down whenever possible.
And it is likewise important to remember that the basis of things that we choose ought not be to obtain pleasure or personal gratification, but ought to likewise be aimed at having a positive impact on those around us. And that such choices are a superior reflection on ourselves when we prioritize a greater social harmony over a personal indulgence.
It is precisely for reasons like these that I have given up alcohol.
I don’t think any of these statements should be treated as controversial, but God knows, even when speaking in the least offensive terms possible, it is common for fault to be found in any words on the topic.
This is the sort of comedy that ensues when you give a Nobel peace prize to Pres. Obama before he started his own Presidency…
For the first time in history, and a point that I hope will not be lost on historians in 100 years, we have seen one Nobel Peace Prize winner ask another Nobel Peace Prize winner to essentially stop bombing to smitherines her country…
… And to just re-emphasize this, let’s also throw into the picture the fact that the bombing campaign is being conducted by bloody robots…. But they aren’t bloody; they fly too high to be bloody.
On Friday morning, 17 year-old Pakistani activist Malala Yousafzai won the Nobel Peace Prize. Yousafzai’s prize is well-deserved: she’s been a prominent campaigner for girls’ education for years, and survived a Taliban assassination attempt for her efforts.
But women’s education isn’t Malala’s only cause. She’s also waged a prominent campaign on a topic Americans aren’t talking much about nowadays: the drone war in Pakistan.
In characteristically bold fashion, Yousafzai brought these concerns up in a meeting with President Obama back in October 2013 — one that had originally been held to celebrate her commitment to education.
“I thanked President Obama for the United States’ work in supporting education in Pakistan and Afghanistan and for Syrian refugees,” Yousafzai said in a statement after the meeting — before turning to drones. “I also expressed my concerns that drone attacks are fueling terrorism. Innocent victims are killed in these acts, and they lead to resentment among the Pakistani people. If we refocus efforts on education it will make a big impact.”
The White House statement on its meeting with Yousafzai left that bit out.
Again, I merely point out what a hilarious moment in history when two recipients of the same peace prize are in this situation…
Perhaps the absurd decision makers of the Nobel Peace Prize committee ought to be blamed for this situation.